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    Summary of the LHCb Collaboration Board Meeting
                       (CERN, December 4th 1998)

Minutes taken by F. Harris

 Present: 

 B.Adeva (Santiago de Compostela), A.Bay (Lausanne), T.Bowcock
 (Liverpool), G.Carboni (Rome "Tor Vergata"), C.Coca (Bucharest),
 B.Cox (Virginia), D.Crosetto (Rice), R.Dzhelyadin (Serpukhov),
 R.Forty (CERN), A.Golutvin (ITEP, Moscow), A.Halley (Glasgow),
 N.Harnew * (Oxford), F.Harris (Oxford), H-J.Hilke * (CERN),
 B.Jean-Marie (LAL Orsay), T.Ketel (Free Univ. Amsterdam),
 K.Konigsmann (Freiburg), L.Kravchuk (INR Moscow), R.Le Gac
 (CPPM Marseille), T.Lohse (Humboldt), B.Marechal (Rio de Janeiro),
 G.Martellotti (Rome "La Sapienza), C.Matteuzzi (Milano),
 T.Nakada * (CERN), P.Perret (Clemont-Ferrand), V.Pugatch (INR Kiev),
 Y.Ranyuk (Kharkov), W.Ruckstuhl (FOM), B.Saitta (Cagliari), M.Sannino
 (Genoa), M.Schmelling (MPI Heidelberg), N.Semprini-Cesari (Bologna),
 B.Spaan (Dresden), U.Straumann (U.Heidelberg), D.Websdale (Imperial
 College, London), S.Wotton (Cambridge), N.Zaitsev (Amsterdam).

        * non-voting members

 [34 institutes represented]

 Apologies:

 A.Vorobyov, N.-G. Yao. (E.Aslanides, P.Kooijman,
 J.Van den Brand sent other representatives).

 The meeting was chaired by N. Harnew.


               

 Agenda :
                 1) Approval of the agenda
                 2) Minutes of last meeting
                    2-1) Approval of minutes
                    2-2) Matters arising
                 3) Collaboration issues
                    New collaborators :
                     - University of Edinburgh
                     - University of Barcelona
                     - IHEP University of Heidelberg
                     - Others
                 4) Feedback from referees, LHCC and matters arising
                 5) Proposals for elections of Spokesperson
                 6) Proposal to delay election vote of Technical
                    Coordinator
                 7) Institute feedback to the Interim Memorandum
                    of Understanding (IMoU)
                 8) Financial and manpower matters
                    8-1) Update on funding from institutes
                    8-2) Update on institute manpower
                 9) Technical Board
                10) Plans for revision of the LHCb Constitution
                11) Matters arising from the Plenary Meeting
                12) LHCb conference talks
                     - Membership of talks committee
                13) Collaboration policy on GEANT4
                14) Collaboration policy on LHCb publications
                15) Any other business
                    15-1) Proposal for September 1999 LHCb meeting
                          outside CERN
                    15-2) Communication of CB minutes/business to
                          rest of collaboration
                    15-3) Collaboration Board Secretary



 1) Approval of the Agenda
  
 The agenda was approved.


 2) Minutes of the last meeting

  2.1) Approval of the Minutes

       The minutes of the last meeting held on 18th September 1998
       were approved.

  2.2) Matters arising from the Minutes

    i) T.Nakada and N.Harnew have written to the Cagliari group
       (Italy) formally accepting them into the collaboration.
       The Cagliari CB representative (Gino Saitta) was
       welcomed to the meeting.


 3) Collaboration issues

    New collaborators :

      - University of Edinburgh

        F.Mulheim presented the interests and structure of
        the Edinburgh group.

        The main interest of the Edinburgh group is with the
        RICH project.

        The CB was unanimous in accepting Edinburgh into the
        collaboration. N.Harnew and T.Nakada will write an
        acceptance letter to the group.


*** ACTION ***  T.Nakada and N.Harnew to write a letter of
                acceptance to the University of Edinburgh.

        [As a general rule, it was agreed to specify in the
        letters of acceptance to all new groups that final
        project responsibilities will not be assigned in the
        collaboration until around the time of the TDR's.]

 
      - University of Barcelona

        Ramon Miguel presented the case for Barcelona, with
        Lluis Garrido in attendance.

        The Barcelona group are interested in the Inner Tracker
        and the ECAL for LHCb, and are investigating the area
        in which they can contribute.

        The CB was unanimous in accepting the University of Barcelona
        into the collaboration.

*** ACTION ***  T.Nakada and N.Harnew to write a letter of
                acceptance to the University of Barcelona.


      - IHEP University of Heidelberg


        Volker Lindenstruth presented the aims and structure of
        the IHEP University of Heidelberg group.

        The IHEP University of Heidelberg group have a special
        interest in the Vertex Trigger for LHCb, and have also been
        looking at the implementation of the Track Trigger.

        The CB were unanimous in accepting the group to the
        collaboration.

*** ACTION ***  T.Nakada and N.Harnew to write a letter of
                acceptance to the IHEP University of Heidelberg.


 4) Feedback from referees, LHCC and matters arising

    There will be a meeting of referees with T.Nakada and
    H-J.Hilke in January, and a full referees meeting in March.


 5) Proposals for elections of Spokesperson

    N.Harnew circulated draft proposals, which were also sent to
    CB members by Email on 6/11/98.  These proposals resulted
    from an extra-ordinary meeting on 22/10/98.

    The CB agreed the election procedures, and these are appended
    to these minutes.

      - Approval of role of election committee and membership :

        The role of the election committee was approved.
        The following were ratified to make up the committee :
        G.Carboni, J.Harvey, W.Hofmann, J.LeFrancois, and A.Vorobyov
        (N.Harnew chair).

      - Approval of length of term of office and CERN residency :
       
        It was agreed to revise the LHCb constitution as follows :

        2.2 The LHC-B Management; Terms and conditions of appointment;
        Clause 3 :
        "The initial terms of office are up to the submission of the
        Technical Proposal (TP) + 1/2 year. This will cover the time up
        to the TP and subsequent approval phase with minimum disruption.
        Appointments will be made for two-year terms, with the
        possibility of re-election."
        To be replaced by :
        "Appointments will be made for up to three-year terms, with the
        possibility of re-election. For the positions of Spokesperson
        and Deputy Spokesperson, only one re-election is possible
        in normal circumstances."
    
        Although the term is nominally for three years, it was agreed
        that candidates will not be discounted if they can only commit
        to two years.

        2.2 The LHC-B Management; The Spokesperson; Clause 7 :
        "The Spokesperson is expected to spend at least 50% of time at
        CERN up to the Technical Proposal and be resident at CERN
        thereafter."
        To be replaced by :
        "The Spokesperson is expected to be resident at CERN."

*** ACTION ***  N.Harnew to make the necessary changes to the
                constitution.

      - Approval of voting procedure, quorum requirement and
        election majority.

        The voting procedure was agreed (and as appended to these
        minutes). The quorum and election majority requirements
        were agreed (and the same as specified in the LHCb
        constitution).

        There was agreement to adopt the procedure proposed by the
        CB Chairman following the extraordinary meeting (as circulated).
        The CB Chairperson will conduct the election. He will send
        a ballot paper to each institute, however Email replies 
        will be accepted if the institute prefers this method.
        It was agreed to review the voting procedure for future
        Spokesperson elections, where ballots in CB meetings should be
        considered.

        In the case where two candidates end up with equal votes, it
        was agreed that the election process would need to be repeated.

      -  Election timetable

         The timetable was agreed. The revised timetable is as below :

    5th Dec 98  : The CB Chairman sends an Email request to the CB 
                  calling for Spokesperson nominations.
    15th Dec 98 : Deadline for Spokesperson nominations. Election
                  committee participates in discussions.
    20th Jan 99 : Announcement of Spokesperson candidate list.
    27th Jan 99 : Candidate list re-announced, voting starts.
    11th Feb 99 : Voting deadline.
    12th Feb 99 : Election result announced.
    19th Feb 99 : The elected Spokesperson is ratified at the CB meeting.
                  The starting date for the Spokesperson is announced;
                  which is expected to be not later than 6 months after
                  the election date.

*** ACTION ***  N.Harnew to start the Spokesperson election process with
                a call for nominations.

       
 6) Proposal to delay election vote of Technical Coordinator
           
    It was agreed to delay the election of the Technical Coordinator
    for three months after the election of the Spokesperson. The
    election procedure will need to be formally agreed only after
    the Spokesperson election has been completed. The three-month
    delay avoids the possibility of two simultaneous management
    changes.

 7) Institute feedback to the Interim Memorandum of Understanding (IMoU)

    H-J.Hilke reported that mid-March is the next time at which changes
    to the IMoU will need to be made, so comments should be forwarded
    to HJH well before that date.

*** ACTION ***  All : provide H-J.Hilke with comments to the IMoU
                where appropriate.


 8) Financial and manpower matters

    8-1) Update on funding from institutes

    H-J.Hilke reported there was no new information. Institutes
    should continue to provide up to date information when
    appropriate.

*** ACTION ***  All : provide H-J.Hilke with updated funding
                estimates.

    8-2) Update on institute manpower

    N.Harnew reported that he has written letters to institutes
    who have not yet supplied manpower estimates.


 9) Technical Board

   H-J.Hilke proposed that the TB should deal with matters of :

       . Standardisation, optimisation and safety.
       . Cost issues (contingencies, ceilings and reductions).
       . Special problem areas (resources, milestones and schedules).
       . Preparation of TDR's.
       . Preparation of decisions of options (and the review process).
       . General issues (installation, beampipe, magnet).

   H-J.Hilke proposed the following membership of the TB :

       . Spokesperson
       . Technical Coordinator (chair)
       . CB Chairperson
       . Sub-System Coordinators
       . Task force Coordinators
       . Test-Beam Coordinator

   Additional experts can be invited through the Technical
   Coordinator according to the agenda, and proposed by any TB member.

   The CB agreed the proposals for the remit and membership
   of the TB, as above.

   The issue was raised whether additional members should be added
   to the TB. It was agreed that additional members should not be
   added at this time, but could later be considered in relation
   to the review of the LHCb Constitution (see item 10 below).

   H-J. Hilke proposed the review procedure for major decisions :

  o  Most decisions should be taken in the subsystem groups
     wherever possible.

  o  If a decision is considered a major one by the Technical
     Board or Management (where the Management consists of the
     Spokesperson and Technical Coordinator), a review procedure
     is launched.
     
  o  Two referees are nominated by the Management, after
     discussion in the Technical Board. These referees must
     come from outside the subsystem being reviewed.

  o  A Review Panel is then appointed consisting of the
     subsystem coordinator and the two referees. The Review
     Panel can invite any experts ad-hoc from inside LHCb. They
     can also invite from outside LHCb (but this must be endorsed
     by the Management). The Spokesperson, Technical Coordinator
     and Collaboration Board Chairman may participate in the
     Review Board discussions.

  o  The recommendations of the Review Panel are discussed in
     the Technical Board, who further make a recommendation.

  o  The final decision is made by the Management and passed to
     the Collaboration Board for endorsement.

  o  If the decision is not endorsed by the Collaboration Board,
     the management prepare a new decision.

   The above proposal for the review procedure was endorsed by
   the Collaboration Board as an interim measure, until the
   review of the LHCb Constitution is finalized.
    

 10) Plans for revision of the LHCb Constitution
 
    N.Harnew circulated first-draft proposals, which were also
    sent to CB members by Email on 17/11/98. N.Harnew reported
    that there was not universal consensus on these issues, for
    example relating to the membership and terms of reference
    of the proposed Management Board.

    Due to lack of time, it was agreed that this very important
    matter needed a special meeting of the CB. The morning of
    Wednesday January 20th was agreed.

    It was agreed that sub-system coordinators who were not
    themselves members of the CB were also invited to attend.
 
    The hope is to have a first draft of the revised constitution
    prepared for the 19th February CB meeting.


 11) Matters arising from the Plenary Meeting
 
    The Chairman raised three items for discussion :

    a) The CB noted the calorimeter design modifications which
       are close to being a firm proposal.

    b) The MOEDAL experiment, and the presentation of the LoI
       to the LHCC open session in March was noted.

    c) The following points made made in the plenary meeting
       with respect to the TOTEM experiment were endorsed by the CB :

        o  The physics is good.
      
        o  We reconfirm our position that there will be no objection to
           accommodate the TOTEM experiment at IP8 provided no
           interference to the LHCb experiment is found.

        o  The two tracking planes inserted in the LHCb spectrometer
           for the total cross section measurement, in particular the
           one in front of the dipole magnet, may introduce serious
           difficulties.

        o  We inform our position and concerns to the TOTEM
           collaboration and encourage further discussion.

*** ACTION ***  T.Nakada to write a letter to the TOTEM collaboration.


 12) LHCb conference talks

     T.Nakada reported.

     The CB thanked the outgoing members of the Talks Committee
     (W Hoogland and S Conetti). The new membership was agreed by the
     CB : B.Adeva, G.Carboni, A.Halley. Technical talks will continue
     to be channeled through the subsystem coordinators.

    
 13) Collaboration policy towards the GEANT4 MoU

     Following on from a long discussion in the plenary meeting,
     T.Nakada briefly clarified the implications of signing the
     GEANT4 MoU. It was agreed that the responsibility for making the
     final decision on whether and when to sign should pass to the
     Spokesman, Technical Coordinator and J.Harvey (as coordinator
     of computing activities). Given the concerns of several members
     regarding possible implications of signing, it was agreed that
     the collaboration have a week to express their opinions and
     concerns directly to T.Nakada and J.Harvey. After this time a
     decision will be make, and T.Nakada will inform the CB the outcome.


 14) Collaboration policy on LHCb publications

    T.Nakada circulated a proposal from Bartels, Haidt and Zerwas
    concerning electronic publication of LHCb notes in EPH.C. The
    proposal was briefly discussed. There will be an ECFA group
    set up to discuss the general issues concerning publications
    from the LHC experiments. It was noted that issues of refereeing
    procedures will need to be properly addressed.

    This item will be put on the agenda of a future CB meeting for
    detailed discussion.

 
 15) Any other business

 15.1) Proposal for September 1999 LHCb meeting outside CERN

    W.Ruckstuhl outlined the proposal of NIKHEF to host the
    Sept. 13-17th 1999 LHCb meeting. The NIKHEF meeting was
    welcomed, and approved, by the CB.


 15.2) Communication of CB minutes/business to rest of collaboration

    The Chairman expressed concern that CB minutes might not be
    being properly communicated to the collaboration by all
    CB representatives. It was agreed that CB minutes should be
    posted on the protected LHCb area of the WWW, with the
    Chairman taking responsibility for appropriate editing with
    respect to matters of confidentiality.

*** ACTION ***  N.Harnew to instigate a CB web site for posting
                minutes etc.

 
   15.3) CB Secretary

    The CB Chair proposed that we appoint an official CB Secretary
    for minute taking. He suggested a term of office of 1 year.
    N.Harnew will gratefully receive volunteers/nominations.
  

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                    Summary of Important Dates
                   
All meetings are at CERN unless otherwise indicated.


 LHCC Meetings

 1999 : 21-22 Jan, 25-26 Mar, 27-28 May, 8-9 July,
        2-3 Sept, 4-5 Nov.


 Dates of future LHCb weeks and Collaboration Board meetings

  LHCb weeks 1998       Plenary meeting    Collaboration Board

  20 Jan                                                 20 Jan, 9:00am
  15 Feb - 19 Feb 99              18 Feb                 19 Feb
   7 Jun - 11 Jun 99              10 Jun                 11 Jun
  13 Sep - 17 Sep 99              16 Sep                 17 Sep
  29 Nov -  3 Dec 99               2 Dec                  3 Dec


 Dates of conveners/referees meetings

 1999 :  
         24 Mar   (coordinators and referees)


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The CB attendees for the previous (18/9/98) meeting were as follows:


 B.Adeva (Santiago de Compostela), E.Aslanides (CPPM Marseille),
 A.Bay (Lausanne), C.Bosio (Rome "La Sapienza"), O.Boutianov
 (Espoo-Vataa), T.Bowcock (Liverpool), M.Bruschi (Bologna), 
 G.Carboni (Rome "Tor Vergata"), C.Coca (Bucharest), R.Dzhelyadin
 (Serpukhov), R.Forty (CERN), A.Golutvin (ITEP, Moscow), E.Guschin
 (INR, Moscow), B.Govorkov (Lebedev PI, Moscow), N.Harnew * (Oxford),
 F.Harris (Oxford), H-J.Hilke * (CERN), B.Jean-Marie (LAL Orsay),
 C.Jiang (Beijing), T.Nakada * (CERN), M.Paganoni (Milano), L.de Paula
 (Rio de Janeiro), P.Perret (Clemont-Ferrand), W.Ruckstuhl (FOM),
 M.Sannino (Genoa), M.Schmelling (MPI Heidelberg), U.Straumann
 (U.Heidelberg), A.Vorobyov (NPI Gatchina), D.Websdale
 (Imperial College, London), S.Wotton (Cambridge).

        * non-voting members

[27 institutes represented]



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  Procedure for election of LHCb Spokesperson
 
    A) Role of Election Committee

    An election committee is set up. The committee is chaired by the
    CB Chairperson with five other members, nominated by him or her,
    and approved by the CB.
    [The following five people have been ratified to make up the
    election committee : G.Carboni, J.Harvey, W.Hofmann, J.LeFrancois,
    and A.Vorobyov. ]
 
    The Chairperson requests nominations for Spokesperson from the
    collaboration. Nominations should come via members of the CB
    (although the nominees themselves can be any member of the
    collaboration). The names of nominated candidates are passed on to
    the election committee. The election committee checks with those
    nominated that they are willing to stand. If an election committee
    member is nominated and is prepared to stand, that person will
    resign from the committee and a replacement on the committee will
    be found.
 
    5th Dec 98 :  The CB Chairman sends an Email request to the CB 
                  calling for Spokesperson nominations.

    It is the role of the election committee to consult with, and
    to disseminate information, to all CB members. The committee may
    also discuss their findings with individual candidates, who will
    have the opportunity to withdraw from the election process if the
    candidate considers it appropriate. The Chairperson does not
    directly enter into discussion with collaboration members about
    any nominated candidate.

    15th Dec 98 : Deadline for Spokesperson nominations. Election
                  committee participates in discussions.

    The CB Chairperson makes a preliminary consultation with the
    CERN Management about the nominees and provides feedback to the
    committee.

    The list of candidates that have been nominated and agree to
    stand is announced to the CB.  The list must be circulated well
    enough in advance of the election so further nominations can be
    added if necessary (and checking of willingness to stand). The
    final list of candidates is announced.

    20th Jan 99 : Announcement of Spokesperson candidate list.

    27th Jan 99 : Candidate list re-announced, voting starts.


    B) Voting procedure

    The CB Chairperson conducts the election, which is done preserving
    secrecy by postal vote (a ballot paper will be sent to each
    institute), or by Email if the institute prefers. The election starts
    with the circulation of the names of nominated candidates. After
    consultation with the members of their institute, each CB member
    selects the names of candidates who they consider to be acceptable,
    and ranks them in order of preference. Conversely, any candidate
    the institute finds unacceptable is not ranked. Only candidates
    who are ranked as acceptable to the necessary majority of voting
    institutes are considered in the vote-counting process (ie. 2/3
    of the institutes participating in the vote, and at least 50% of
    the quorum).

    Each institute has a single transferable vote. At the first step,
    the vote goes to the person they have ranked first. The candidate
    with the fewest votes (or candidates in the case of an equal
    vote) is then dropped from the election, and his or her votes are
    transferred to the next person in the institute's ranking that
    is still eligible, if any. This is repeated until a single
    candidate remains. If the process leads finally to two candidates
    with an equal vote, the election process would have to be restarted.


    Before the result is announced the CB Chairperson informs the
    CERN Management. 

    11th Feb 99 : Voting deadline.

    12th Feb 99 : Election result announced.

    19th Feb 99 : The elected Spokesperson is ratified at the CB meeting.
                  The starting date for the Spokesperson is announced;
                  which is expected to be not later than 6 months after
                  the election date.


    C) Quorum and election-majority requirements

    Only those institutes which have attended at least one of
    the previous two CB meetings are entitled to vote, and these
    institutes are counted towards the quorum. An institute can
    declare that it does not wish to participate in the vote, and
    in this case the institute is not counted towards the quorum.
    An institute which is entitled to vote but abstains, is still
    counted towards the quorum. To be elected, the Spokesperson
    candidate requires a 2/3rd majority of those participating
    in the vote, and must be supported by at least 50% of the quorum.

  
    D) Length of term of office and residency

    The length of office for Spokesperson is for up to a three-year
    term, with the possibility of re-election. Only one re-election
    is possible in normal circumstances.
    [Although the term is nominally for three years, candidates will
    not be discounted if they can only commit to only two years.]

    The Spokesperson is expected to be resident at CERN.